Archive for February, 2005
First Six Weeks at LAC-USC
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David Godden, SRNA
This marks the near mid point for our first semester clinical rotations at the Los Angeles County Medical Center. After a month and a half I have to tell you that I am tired but still very excited to get up at 4:30 every morning to go the hospital and set up the OR. The days are long and difficult at times but so interesting.
The cases that have been completed in this first six weeks have been various general surgical cases. This last week I was in the ER room on Friday and had the good fortune to be able to take care of a 3 year old with a perforated appendix. Little Lucia was so sweet. My preceptor Jim taught me to have her play with the inhalation mask before the induction so that she would not be afraid of the mask when we gave her oxygen. Lucia had a working IV so we discussed the options of an IV anesthetic induction verses inducing anesthesia with sevoflurane. My choice was for the mask induction since I had never done this before and had only read about it knowing the advantages for pediatric cases.
What made this situation additionally stressful for me was all of the people around. I am nervous enough at the start of an anesthetic especially during the induction period. Not only was my preceptor and the Attending Anesthesiologist behind giving me all of their well appreciated advice but Kari the Chief CRNA at the County Medical Center was there with her student Anya. Kari and Anya were between cases and wanted to turn the heat up on me. Actually, little Lucia’s smile was so engaging it was a magnet for everyone around so it wasn’t me they were interested in. It just felt like I was on the Hot Seat with a lot of people observing. Throw in a couple of surgeons and there were enough people for a party with me as the director. Oh my God, I had a Zen moment.
We all trailed off to the OR after I had given Lucia a milligram of midazolam. (Figure that out – 15 kg at 0.1 mg/kg and you get 1.5 mg of versed). The one milligram was not enough and I gave her another one half once we were in the operating room. I was recalculating all of the medication doses a couple times in my head and was getting overloaded. We scooted her to the OR table and handed her the mask. At this time she was pretty groggy but still reached up for the mask feebly.
On the OR table after the sedation she was very calm and took the mask oxygen very nicely. I turned on the sevoflurane and off to sleepy land in a few minutes with an easy hand mask ventilation technique. After a couple of minutes of a mask sevoflurane and rocuronium for muscle relaxation, I was able to do a DL (direct laryngoscopy) with a good view of her vocal cords. Her trachea was intubated without difficulty with a 4.5 uncuffed endotracheal tube and the surgery was begun after another few minutes of preparation. I was almost in a trance myself.
The interesting thing about this surgery for me was not just the first pediatric case but the surgeon. The attending surgeon was someone I knew from UCLA from a few years back. At the time she was a second year surgical Resident doing a month of rotation in the cariothoracic ICU. Eventually she became the Resident of the Year in our Unit. We became quite good friends and it was very nice seeing her again after her training now teaching others. The open appendectomy was performed quickly under competent hands and Lucia did very well.
When I woke Lucia up at the end of the surgery she cried a little even after giving her some IV morphine. My preceptor picked her up from the OR table and carried her back to the PAR unit with me dragging the oxygen tank and IV bags along behind. That must have been a sight. I have to tell you even with all of the work, the lack of sleep and the stress of performing with so many watching eyes, the sight of little Lucia cuddling up on the shoulder of Jim my preceptor on the way to the recovery room makes all of the work and stress worth while.
Open Letter to James
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Gina Wald, DC BSN CCRN
Gina comes to nurse anesthesia practice prepared as a doctor of chiropractics. She is a first year student of Nurse Anesthesia at the University of Southern California. Her experience includes several years as an RN in a neuro/trauma ICU. Here are her first suggestions to James a prospective nurse anesthesia student.
James,
I am a first year SRNA at USC in California.
I knew before I started nursing school that anesthesia was where I wanted to be. While I loved working in ER, I chose my first nursing job in ICU, because I knew I would need experience with invasive monitoring (PA catheters and arterial lines) vasoactive drips, and ventilators. Those were my priorities. I would have started NA school after only a year, but decided to have a baby instead, which pushed back my plans. But the time in ICU was well spent, and I don’t regret one day of it.
There are students in our class who come from an ER background, and they will be the first to tell you that they feel intimidated by some of the ICU type stuff with which they are unfamiliar, but they are doing just fine and we will all graduate as safe and competent anesthetists. I know one CRNA who had all of two months experience when she started the NA program, and she is a fine and knowledgeable anesthetist.
I agree with David that the best thing you can do for yourself right now is to meet with or speak on the phone with several program directors, fax them your CV and ask where you could strengthen it. I did this before I graduated and it gave me a very clear plan of action.
I wish you all of the best in your endeavors. Do not give up. This is the first test of many regarding your perseverance and determination. You must really want this, and don’t let anything stop you.
Gina Wald, DC, BSN, CCRN
All I Could Ever Think About
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Josette Salas, RN BSNJosette Salas is an RN from California. She has worked as a traveling nurse in some of the busiest Medical Centers on the West Coast including UCLA, USC University Hospital, Cedars Sinai and others. Her specialties includes Cardiothoracic ICU and Neuro/Trauma intensive care. She comes to Nurse Anesthesia School with a lot of great preparation and motivation.
Becoming a CRNA was all I ever could think about. I knew this was for me in my last semester of nursing school back in 1998. I went into critical care and enrolled for my BSN straight out of nursing school so that I could fulfill my dream of becoming a Nurse Anesthetist.
I thought I would get right into school. Here it is now 2005 and I am just in my first year of graduate school. I could not believe how extremely competitive it was to get in. I applied 2 years in a row to the CA Kaiser program and nothing happened there. I decided that if I wanted to become a CRNA badly enough I would have to sacrifice and make a move.
Here I am now in Buffalo NY, freezing but I love the program at the University of Buffalo. We have a great class and I am excited just to have made it this far. I must say that school is not easy. It can be very stressful and crazy at times. What helps is to have study groups and your friends in the program.
I remember when I got the phone call from the Program Director at Buffalo. I had been accepted and I couldn’t believe it. This was a year before I would start school. It is nice to have a little time; my husband is a traveling nurse so we get by on what he makes and we could move together here to New York. There are students that do work but I am extremely fortunate to not have to. I don’t know if I could do this without my husbands help.
You really need to think about your goals in life when making a commitment to doing something like this. Saving money, not having a car payment or bills and being basically debt free is the best preparation. I have started clinicals this semester with observation days and I know this is something that I can do. I am SO EXCITED.
Your Host
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Greetings from Los Angeles. My name is David Godden and I am a student of Nurse Anesthesia at the University of Southern California. This is the beginning of a forum for students and practicing CRNA’s. What prompted me to start this site was a comment by a nursing student that I ran across. James is from Australia and was inquiring about becoming a Nurse Anesthetist and was having trouble finding a source of information on the web that answered his questions about the profession.This web site will hopefully have many contributors both from students like myself and those with experience as practicing Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists. I welcome any contributions from those in the field and invite all to participate.
Nurse Anesthetist is Up
Posted by: | CommentsThis is the Nurse Anesthetist Blog. In it the experiences of Nurse Anesthesia students and practicing CRNA’s will be relayed in detail. There may be many contributers, each from a different perspective but making up a pattern that will rival any Persian Rug.
Welcome to NurseAnesthetits.org and enjoy your journey.
Calling All Nurse Anesthetists
Posted by: | CommentsA few months ago I received a very nice letter by way of a comment to one of my blog postings from James a nursing student in Australia. He, like many of us, has questions about the profession of Nurse Anesthesia here in the United States. Most people, not to mention those inside of medicine and its related specialties, have never heard of Nurse Anesthesia let alone could describe what it is that they do. The idea that over 50% of all of the general anesthetics in this country are administered by a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist (CRNA), some report up to 65%, is a thought that has never entered the consciousness of the average person. So who are these CRNA’s, where do they come from and what is the preparation that goes into becoming a Nurse Anesthetist? Big questions and far too few answers. Below is James original comment/post and a beginning of a response from me.
Hi David…
I have just finished skimming through your Blog. I am an undergrad nursing student who found your site while researching Nurse Anesthetists for a future career. I have some questions and I am not sure where I should post them. Anyway, it’s about the admission criteria for the MSN program. My undergrad marks should be very strong by full graduation time, but I would like to know what is the average amount of years of experience you and your peers have had in ICU-related nursing? Is anyone in that program with only the bare minimum of one year experience? If this is not the appropriate place to ask questions then is there an email address I could have for further discussion. Thank you for your assistance in these matters, it is quite difficult for me to find information from the other side of the world, Australia.
Your reply would be much appreciated.
Thanks
James
Hello James
Thank you James for your thoughtful inquiry and questions concerning Nurse Anesthesia. I got your message and wanted to reply to you directly but you did not leave an Email address so the only way to give you an acknowledgment and answer to your questions is here in the blog directly. You may email me anytime at for a more personal response.
I too did a lot of research into which were the best schools for Nurse Anesthesia. Beginning with the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists (AANA), I explored many of the web sites of the schools here in the United States that are listed under Certified Programs. In the web pages of the AANA is a document describing what Nurse Anesthetists are at a glance. I guess that is the best place to start.
James, you asked about clinical preparation before being eligible to enter a program of Nurse Anesthesia. The requirement for admission to any school in the US is at least one year of critical care nursing. Different schools interpret what “critical care†is differently. All of them accept intensive care units (ICU) as critical care and exclude all else including Emergency Room experience or Post Anesthesia Care Units (PACU) while other programs are more liberal and examine each person’s application for experience in critical care individually. My advise is to explore the AANA’s web site and the schools that you like to find what a prospective school requires.
The answer to your question about only one year of experience is yes. There are some students that are accepted into Nurse Anesthesia programs with just one year or a year and a half of clinical experience. This may be because the rest of their application is exceptional while for others like myself it takes many years of ICU experience to get ready to apply. Do not be intimidated is the main thing. Get the experience that you need and go for your goal, period.
Academic requirements for most schools include an upper division course in statistics, physics and a year of chemistry including organic and biochemistry as part of your undergraduate nursing program. Many undergraduate programs do not include these as part of their curriculum so adding them now is very important if your goal is to go into Nurse Anesthesia here in the United States. Again, research the individual programs in the AANA web site directory for their requirements.
Finally, it becomes a little bit of a problem for foreign students coming to the US. I advise calling any prospective school now and to talk to the director of the program to see what you can do to make your transcripts attractive and acceptable to their respective programs. I have a friend here in the States who has a Nursing degree from Australia. She has to take classes here to establish a grade point average and to make up some deficiencies including the statistics, physics and chemistry before her application is accepted by a Nurse Anesthesia program here.
One last point about the application process here in the US. Most school require a minimum score on the Graduate Record Exam (GRE). This can stumbling block unless you prepare for it wisely. There are review courses here including Kaplan and the Princeton Review for the GRE. They all are worth while if you are serious about doing well on the GRE.
I hope that some of this helps. There is so much more to talk about but space and time do not permit now. The books that I have found to be essential for anesthesia practice are listed above in the Library Page. Good luck James and follow your dream. I have been struggling with climbing this mountain for a while now and appreciate anyone who wants to do more and make an impact on the world. The bottom line is that as a Nurse Anesthetist your input into patient care becomes very important and valued highly.